等花鸣: “ Once people understand why, they shall have their answers.”

等花鸣是一位现居上海的业余自媒体博主，她的视频内容专注于性别议题的科普，以严谨的学术态度传达对社会的深度凝视与人文关怀。她认为，在零碎的后真相时代，女性要想从多维度的困境中走出来，需要建立起系统的社会认知图谱，在此基础上，才能以冷静的目光审视自我与世界，为平权运动开拓新的道路。等花鸣希望在未来持续链接热爱思考的朋友，一起探索性别，洞察社会，将思想激情付诸日常行动中，为世界带来更多的平等与美好。

1.    “等花鸣”这个名字很有诗意。您当初为什么取这个名字？它承载着怎样的理念或隐喻？

总体上，我希望自媒体名字是充满希望的，这样能给观众传递积极的感受。

“花”隐喻女性群体；“鸣”代表发出声音，我的小名叫“等等”，正好合在一起，表示我会一直等候和陪伴女性发出自己的声音。此外，《诗经》中有“呦呦鹿鸣，食野之苹”，鹿群在原野上发出又有的鸣叫声，宁静祥和，充满意趣，女性给世界带来的正是这样的画面，自然茂盛、平静悠哉。

2.    您如何理解“科普型女性主义博主”这个身份？在创作中，您希望自己代表怎样的一种声音或立场？

“科普型女性主义博主”，顾名思义，科学地普及女性主义，我认为这个身份的持有者至少有通过学术渠道或自学的方式对社会学/性别研究/女性学进行过系统了解，在自身有大致框架的前提下自我表达，传递知识。

 我希望自己不是零碎的，而是基于坚实的学科了解，发表有现实物质基础的观点。“科普型女性主义博主”尤其要注意自身言论的现实根据和可实践性，否则就会变成单纯的情绪表达，如此的话，我们的言论就失去了其立足的根据，最终只能在混杂的互联网上轻飘飘地来，又轻飘飘地去。

3.    您的视频在表达观点的同时，也非常注重叙事和情绪节奏。您是如何在知识科普和情感共鸣之间找到平衡的？

我在早期（2024年）的作品并没有很好地找到知识科普和情感共鸣之间的平衡，当时的作品几乎全都是理论术语，和我学生时期写相关论文一样。中期，我开始关注互联网热点，通过热搜、翻阅评论区，捕捉网友兴趣点，将这些融入视频中；同时我开始注意将理论和生活中的思考相互转换融合，以达到便于大众理解的目的。

现在，我的视频至少可以做到能让大家想听和听懂，而不是早期满屏的“听不懂”。

4.    在制作视频时，您通常是先确定主题再找资料，还是灵感来自于社会事件或评论区的讨论？

两种情况都有，常规是我确定系列主题后再开始制作（我的合集中有很多系列视频）；偶然情况下，我会根据社会热点发表时评。

5.    您开设了“等花鸣2.0”账号，可以聊聊这个决定背后的原因吗？

我的第一个账号“等花鸣”在2025年1月份被禁止关注了，原因不详，大概率是被举报了吧。我想继续表达，所以就开了“等花鸣2.0 。现在原账号回来了，我就顺势回归了”等花鸣“。

6.    您最近最关注或最想推动的女性主义议题是什么？

“全球妇女峰会”近期在北京举行，上一次还是30年前（1995年），我想梳理2025全球妇女峰会上提及的女性发展趋势，落到每个妇女身上，大家可以如何顺应形势发展自身。

7.    您觉得当下年轻女性在网络上讨论女性主义时，最容易被忽略或误解的地方是什么？

一下子不太容易举例，我就笼统一点讲。

当下很多参与女性主义讨论的人很容易将“关注女性主义”简化成“输出女人遭遇的不公现象”，实际上，只抓住现象陈述，容易忽视剖析现象形成的根本原因，一切现象都有其物质基础，抓住这一点，女性主义才不至于陷入“只输出情绪，不关注原因”的陷阱。尤其是有一定体量的意见领袖，更需要注意这一点。正如，我的“等花鸣2.0”账号的简介有一句话：“知道了为什么，人们就有了答案”，我认为做到这一点，才不算产生互联网垃圾。

8.    很多人说“女性主义是一场自我觉醒的旅程”。您对“觉醒”的定义是什么？

在我看来，“觉醒”是看见自己，同时还能以自我主体的身份和世界对话。

以女性主义的视角来看，女性需要挣脱系统性/结构性的不公，从这一点出发，看见自己的主体身份是前提，自我看见之后，女性才可能不再根据社会规训的年龄、角色按部就班，而是根据自己的需求做人生规划。
但是，觉醒之后又有一个误区，就是“只看得见自己”，必须坦诚地讲，很多朋友在觉醒后呼吁“只关心自己”，甚至做一些伤害别人的事情，这是从一个极端走向另一个极端了。一个拥有主体性且心智成熟的人，一定是能看见她人的，她一定懂得如何站在本位视角和世界周旋对话，这也是一种生存和发展上的长期主义。

9.    在长期创作中，是否会感到疲惫或怀疑？您又该如何与自己调节？ 

创作不会让我感到疲惫，相反，它是我的动力之一。但是我的主职工作确实很忙，这有时候会令我疲惫。我的调节方法很简单，太忙就减少更新频率，闲下来再多多更新就行了。总体来说，未来我仍然会以主职工作为中心，毕竟这是我吃饭的家伙。

10. 在中国，女性主义缺乏官方平台与主流认可，许多议题只能依靠网络传播。您认为像您这样的女性主义博主，在这种语境下是否承担了民间觉醒者的角色？这种责任感会不会让您感到压力或孤独？

做视频这么长时间，我最大的感悟是女性主义受到的阻碍绝大多数都来源于一部分情绪波动极大的互联网男性，他们的画像一般是这样的：年龄小、读书少、缺乏对马克思主义的最基本了解、不唯物、不懂社会运转逻辑、更不懂性别研究/女性主义作为一门学科的正当性、爱跟风、爱举报。这部分群体经常聚集在一起做一些过激行为，破坏互联网的良好生态，我比较建议平台先把这部分激进群组处理掉。 

我认为我只是一个助推者的角色，像我这样的博主有很多，我在做这些事情的过程中，也会收到回馈，例如偶然的广告佣金和流量收入。大部分情况下，女性的觉醒是靠她们自己经历切实生活后的思考，能觉醒的前提，一个是受教育，第二个是经济独立。至于我的角色，我只希望女性同胞在刷到我的视频之后能感叹一句：“确实，我也是这么想的”，或者是“哇，这是我没想到的新思路！”这些女性同胞一定是早有思考的，要想依靠“传道”让一个人从0-1是不可能的。

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Deng Huaming (Waiting for the Flowers to Sing) is an amateur content creator based in Shanghai whose videos focus on popularizing gender studies. With a rigorous academic attitude, she conveys a deep reflection on society and a strong sense of humanistic care. She believes that in today’s fragmented, post-truth era, for women to overcome multidimensional challenges, they must first build a systematic map of social understanding. Only on that foundation can they calmly examine themselves and the world, opening new paths for gender equality. In the future, she hopes to continue connecting with thoughtful, like-minded individuals to explore gender, observe society, and translate intellectual passion into everyday action—bringing more equality and beauty into the world.

1. The name “Waiting for the Flowers to Sing” is very poetic. Why did you choose this name, and what kind of meaning or metaphor does it carry?

   Overall, I wanted my media platform’s name to feel hopeful, so that it could convey positivity to the audience. “Flower” is a metaphor for women as a collective; “Sing” represents the act of raising one’s voice. My nickname happens to be “Dengdeng” (which sounds like “Wait” in Chinese), so combined, it suggests that I will always wait for and accompany women as they find their voices. Additionally, there’s a line in The Book of Songs: “The deer call gently as they feed on wild grass.” That imagery—of deer singing softly in the wild—is tranquil, harmonious, and full of vitality. I believe women bring precisely this kind of beauty to the world: natural, abundant, and peacefully alive.

2. How do you understand your identity as a “feminist science communicator”? What kind of voice or stance do you hope to represent through your content?
   A “feminist science communicator,” as the name suggests, is someone who approaches feminism with rigor and aims to communicate it scientifically. I believe anyone holding this identity should have studied sociology, gender studies, or women’s studies—whether through formal academic channels or self-study—and formed a structured understanding before engaging in self-expression and knowledge sharing. I don’t want my content to be fragmented. My opinions are grounded in solid theoretical and social understanding. A feminist communicator, in particular, must be careful that her words have factual grounding and practical relevance—otherwise they risk becoming mere emotional outbursts. If that happens, our voices lose their foundation and drift meaninglessly in the noise of the internet.

3. Your videos balance strong arguments with narrative and emotional rhythm. How do you find that balance between educational content and emotional resonance?
   In my early work (around 2024), I didn’t handle this balance very well—those videos were almost entirely academic jargon, like the papers I wrote in school. Later, I began paying attention to internet trends and hot topics, reading comment sections to capture what interested viewers, and incorporating those elements into my videos. I also started weaving together theory and daily life reflections to make the ideas more accessible to a general audience. Now, I’d say my videos can at least make people want to listen—and understand—rather than feel alienated by complicated terminology as they once did.

4. When producing a video, do you usually determine the theme first and then find supporting materials, or does your inspiration come from social events or comment section discussions?
   Both happen. Normally, I determine a topic or theme series in advance and then conduct research for each video (as seen in my themed playlists). Occasionally, when a social event becomes a trending topic, I’ll publish a timely commentary based on that.

5. You opened a second account, “Waiting for the Flowers to Sing 2.0.” Could you talk about the reason behind that decision?
   My first account, “Waiting for the Flowers to Sing,” was banned from allowing new followers in January 2025 for unclear reasons—likely due to being reported. I wanted to keep expressing myself, so I created “Waiting for the Flowers to Sing 2.0.” Now that the original account has been restored, I’ve naturally returned to using it.

6. What recent feminist issue have you been most focused on or hope to promote?
   Recently, I’ve been most focused on the “Global Women’s Summit,” which was held in Beijing again after 30 years—the last one being in 1995. I plan to analyze the key feminist and developmental trends discussed at the 2025 Summit, and more importantly, to explore how these global trends translate into actionable changes for individual women—how each woman can align her personal development with these broader shifts.

7. What do you think is the most overlooked or misunderstood aspect when young women in China discuss feminism online today?
   It’s hard to give one specific example, but in general, many young people discussing feminism online tend to simplify “caring about feminism” into merely “sharing stories of women’s suffering.” In fact, if one only focuses on describing phenomena, it’s easy to ignore the root causes behind those phenomena. Every social issue has its material basis—understanding that helps feminism avoid falling into the trap of “venting emotions without analyzing causes.” Opinion leaders with large audiences especially need to be careful about this. As I wrote in the bio of my “Waiting for the Flowers to Sing 2.0” account: “Once people understand why, they have their answers.” Only then can our discussions avoid becoming just more internet noise.

8. Many say that feminism is a journey of self-awakening. How do you define ‘awakening’?
   To me, “awakening” means seeing yourself clearly while still being able to engage in dialogue with the world as an independent subject. From a feminist perspective, women must first break free from systemic and structural inequalities. Recognizing oneself as a subject is the precondition for that. Once a woman truly sees herself, she no longer lives according to the social norms imposed by age or role, but instead plans her life based on her own needs. However, there’s a common misunderstanding that comes after awakening—some people start to “see only themselves,” even doing things that hurt others in the name of self-interest. That’s simply moving from one extreme to another. A person with true subjectivity and emotional maturity can also see others; she knows how to engage with the world from her own standpoint. That, too, is a form of long-termism in survival and growth.

9. Do you ever feel tired or doubtful after long-term content creation? How do you adjust yourself when that happens?
   Creating videos itself doesn’t make me tired; on the contrary, it’s one of my sources of motivation. What does tire me is my main full-time job—it’s very demanding at times. My method of adjustment is simple: if I’m too busy, I just reduce my posting frequency, and when I have more free time, I post more. Overall, my full-time job will remain my focus—it’s what puts food on the table, after all.

10. In China, feminism lacks official platforms and mainstream recognition, and many discussions can only spread online. Do you think feminist bloggers like you play the role of grassroots awakeners in this context? Does that sense of responsibility make you feel pressured or lonely?
    After doing this for a long time, my biggest realization is that most of the resistance feminism faces comes from a certain group of highly emotional internet men. Their profile is usually this: young, poorly educated, with little understanding of Marxism or basic social theory, non-materialist, ignorant of how society operates, unaware of feminism’s legitimacy as an academic discipline, easily swayed, and quick to report accounts. These groups often gather and engage in extreme behavior that harms the internet’s overall environment. I really think platforms should focus on managing these radical clusters first.

    As for myself, I see my role as a facilitator rather than a savior. There are many creators like me. In the process, I do receive some positive returns—small ad commissions or traffic income—but for the most part, women’s awakening comes from their own lived experiences and reflections. Awakening depends first on education, and second on economic independence. My goal is simply that when a woman scrolls past one of my videos, she might think: “Yes, that’s exactly how I feel,” or “Wow, that’s a new perspective I hadn’t considered.” Those women already have their own thoughts. It’s impossible to “convert” someone from zero to one purely through preaching.

Above is the translated (modified) version.

The interview was conducted by: Penny Wei